My source of input is the well-known textbook, Athenaze, used in my college course. I even have Luigi Miraglia’s Italian version now, praised for. It is our common opinion, based on our studies and experience, that the much augmented Italian edition of Athènaze, by M. Balme, G. Lawall. The Italian Athenaze has no exercise keys. I suppose this would be a big problem for a native Italian speaking self-learner. For my purposes.

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It was the textbook used when I first learned Greek in college, so partly out of nostalgia and partly out of the multiple-warhead approach I have chosen to relearn Greek, I am using it along with what follows. So, you want to know about the Italian Athenaze? As the title indicates the readings contain the readings were written using NT vocabulary and follow NT passages although with variation.

Latin, Intermediate Level One way or the other, you’ll learn the grammar and want to begin reading the ancient authors. There’s no preface; you dive in with the first sentence of the first chapter of Familia Romana”Roma in Italia est. If you read Italian and want to study Greek, get this.

My source of input is the well-known textbook, Athenaze, used in my college course. Here it is if you’re interested: I understand that this leaves the self-taught student in a difficult position. Occasionally Working on the following tutorials: They are not known for their speed. Serious wants to be able to read quotations as well as selections from a limited number of authors, perhaps largely in bilingual editions.

Like Familia Romanathese two Greek series teach grammar in conjunction with immediate immersion in stories about a fictional family. I used Athenaze and quickly found it to be woefully inadequate—not worth the paper it is printed on. I’m currently using the “Reading Latin” books. The Reading Greek 2-CD set sweeps the Academy Awards for best performance by male and female leading and supporting actors, best sound and dramatic effects, and best documentary explaining the restored pronunciation.

On the other hand, I thought we did ok given how long we met. Except for the vocab, the Italian in the book is not necessary, and the vocab is usually pretty simple Italian. And the handbooks are the only source with keys to the exercises in the main books.


“Athenaze”: learning ancient Greek with the nature method

It takes a little practice to learn the right key combination to get the desired combination of diacritics, but it’s really cool the natural-language itzlian doesn’t require writing on parchment or papyrus!

So drawing on this experience, I would like to provide some useful facts, opinions, and recommended resources for an English-speaking person trying to decide how to learn or relearn classical Latin or Greek outside the school or university system.

Lance, you can read my thoughts on a new post inspired by your comment https: Read Sheremet and Dowling. I’ve looked around and got that message of being steeper, but I’m thinking that because I have a fairly good grasp of Latin, I might be ok to jump straight in. Notify me of new comments via email. If you live outside Italy, getting the Italian Athenaze is not necessarily easy. He and his co-authors added stories without disrupting the Dikaiopolis plot line along with Lingua Latina-like marginal notes all in Greek, of course and illustrations, with the pedagogical goal of learning vocabulary and grammar more by contextual induction, less by native-language glosses.

Intense intends to read entire works in a reasonable amount of time, with minimal need for translation and student edition crutches.

It’s very good in a no bones about it kind of way. Without qualification, I have found Reading Greek a perfect self-learning vehicle for learning or relearning ancient Greek.

Otherwise, they’ll never catch up. I also use Charles E. Along with the different alphabet, accents are in fact one of the initial hurdles in learning ancient Greek. The emphasis in the natural-language approach is to first learn to speak and read and to some degree write Latin or Greek as the everyday languages they were.

Chiave degli esercizi e dei testand for the corso medio and corso superiore volumes in this series, you’ll have to shop around on Italian web sites. Start over, from the beginning and see how far you can get with each successive reading. I guess the danger of the natural-language approach is, you’re itching to read Cicero and Ovid and you lose patience.


If you do discover a book that does it right, please let us know! We can call these the grammar-first approach and the natural-language approach. You can view a description of the volumes and view a generous, extended preview of the texts, on the Vivarium Novum site here: A phonetic spelling dictionary would be in order here, not a normal one intended for finding the meanings of words, not their spellings.

Athenaze is the best of the worst, and Italian Athenaze is a huge, huge improvement on English Athenaze, but the scaffolding is Italian! Latin Dictionaries and Reference Grammars Though in theory not necessary while working through the introductory and intermediate texts, which have their own vocabularies, you’ll probably want a dictionary.

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At least on Amazon, there are iatlian leftovers from the first editions, so be very careful for any volume in either series to order the second edition. I imagine that in Igalian School I could at least look forward to athwnaze impudence if not more intelligence I am 30 and no longer willing to sit around with flash cards and waste time on meaningless sentences.

Flat Style by Ian Bradley. Athenaze was first published in the early ‘s, the second edition in The point is to learn the language first, rather than leaping from grammar directly to the high art of a Vergil or Cicero or Horace, writers who, as my graduate school Latin professor put it, manipulated the language like a late Beethoven string quartet. Both are designed to be started as early as 8th grade, as my daughter did with Latin.

I, like Luke the Horse, also find the Orberg approach rather pleasant.

The point is to learn Latin and Greek as a natural and living language, not as an exercise in grammar. You have to know how to spell a word to look it up!!!